On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:43:27 +0000 (UTC), bz
wrote:
>HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>news:6l04d3lgbap0iigegj9m7uvplb0flc6k1h@ :
>
>> You still don't understand that I feed into the program the TRUE orbital
>> parameters including velocity.
>>
>....
>
>Henri, unless your TRUE initials are . you can NOT know the TRUE
>orbital parameters.
>Be honest and admit that you guess at the parameters necessary in order for
>your program to produce a curve that looks like the particular curve you
>are trying to fit.
>
>That is ALL.
THAT IS CORRECT.
There is no other way to detemine the true situation from the willusion we see.
Is this so hard for you lesser mortals to understand?
Viewing stars is not the same as seeing on Earth. Light speed must be taken
into account....particularly variable light speed.
>Now IF your program were constructed so as to accurately model BaTH and
>IF BaTH were correct and
>IF the set of parameters that gives the curve were unique and
>IF the curve you are trying to fit accurately reflects what is observe
>THEN your parameters might reflect the 'TRUE orbital parameters'.
>
>ON the other hand, your program has demonstrably produced parameters that
>are NOT true orbital parameters, such as when you fitted the flute's curve.
My program pruduces a very narrow range of curves based solely on the c+v of an
orbiting or pulsating sourse. It turns out that most star curves can be
simulated with this approach. What does that STRONGLY suggest Bob?
The flute thing was a joke mumbled by some desperate relativists.
>Which calls into doubt the accuracy of the the use of the word 'TRUE'.
>
>....
>
>> but the published temperature curve simply cannot be correct. Like I
>> said,for a huffpuff, the maximum temperature SHOULD and MUST BE just
>> before the point of minimum radius.
>
>Recall that I pointed you toward the question of when the maximum
>temperature of an internal combustion engine occurs. Study it well.
I've never seen a star with four wheels Bob. If I do I'll name it after you.
>Clearly, the max temperature internal temperature of a 'huff and puff' star
>will occur some time AFTER the fusion process ignites, and after the in
>falling halts.
Wrong. the main part of the star will be contracting when the 'core explosion'
takes place and rapidly forces it out again.
The maximum temperature should occur at maximum compression...BEFORE the
expansion begins.
>When would WE see the peak temperature?
>
>Surely NOT as the gasses are still in-falling. The heating has begun around
>the core, but we won't see it until the heat from that reaction makes its
>way to the surface of the star.
As with any oscillating system, the amplitude lags the driving force by 90.
/hewn/
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