Group: sci.physics.relativity
From: "Androcles"
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Time can be described without duration and succession


"John Jones" wrote in message
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: On Sep 25, 4:24?am, "Bill Hobba" wrote:
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: > > On Sep 23, 6:20?pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
: > > wrote:
: > >> Dear John Jones:
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: > >> "John Jones" wrote in message
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: > >> > I'll show you, look.
: > >> > How do you know that 2 oclock comes after one
: > >> > oclock? You don't.
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: > >> I do. I know because time is a stochastic process. Caesium
: > >> atoms do not reabsorb, and detectors not uncount microfine
: > >> transition photons. So the clocks keep stacking up counts, time
: > >> marches on, and so many trillion transitions later, 2:00 follows
: > >> 1:00.
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: > >> You must practice being this silly in the mirror. Do you?
: >
: > >> David A. Smith
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: > > Alright, try this. If a clock ticks ten times how would you know which
: > > tick comes first?
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: > The same way we know any event occurs before another - comparing it to
other
: > events. Entropy is always forward - you never see broken glasses
: > reassemble. This is what provides the arrow of time and allows one to
: > determine before from after.
: >
: > > You wouldn't.
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: > Yep - you would. As David says - do you practice being this silly?
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: > Bill
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: > > So you unnecessarily invoke a
: > > dimension to try and help you out. But how would the dimension give
: > > itself the information that one tick comes first, and how would it
: > > communicate that information? It's not possible.- Hide quoted text -
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: > > Alright, try this. If a clock ticks ten times how would you know which
: > > tick comes first?
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: > The same way we know any event occurs before another - comparing it to
other
: > events.
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: Yes. Like I said - we COMPARE it with other events, but we DON'T need
: any 'time' to do that.
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: >Entropy is always forward - you never see broken glasses
: > reassemble.
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: There's no difference between going forward or backward 'in time'.

HAHAHA!
Do it, then.