On Aug 3, 11:16 am, Rob
> And, of course, to 'prove' that no
> magic is required you need to
> explain (or eliminate) the beginning,
> . how something evolved from
> nothing. -- Rob
As I've said many times, and as (surely) you yourself
must realize: "If Existence had to have had "a" beginning
it could not exist."
In a very real sense: There was always "something."
AND/OR what now exists is another version/variation
of Nothingness--Something which some scientists and
theoreticians (including myself) like to swear is the case:
SEE
In fact this is what makes it possible for the universe
to continue "conserving" the energy of which it is made
from larger/slower to smaller/faster ... for all eternity.
We do not notice this eternal conservation of energy,
of course. Except for the "force" we call "gravity."
S D Rodrian
All religions are local.
Only science is universal.